Sunday, November 21, 2010

Dave McKay Announces Return of Jesus-Christians

(Please note: the "rickross.com" URL for many of these links is obsolete. The same info can now be found at its new address, the "culteducation.com" forum)

After a few weeks of lock-down Dave McKay, the founder of the Jesus-Christians opened the forum long enough to announce that he and Cherry McKay will continue to operate the Jesus-Christian website while others continue in new directions. The Jesus-Christians have had a wide range of music, documentary, and educational missions besides their personal witnessing activities. There has been a recent expansion in the film-production side with the release of longer and more professionally-produced documentaries about their teachings and practices.

Here is the announcement by Dave McKay that was posted in Announcements at their forum:

There has been much speculation over what is happening internally within the Jesus Christians at the moment. Most of this speculation has been an over-reaction. There have, indeed, been certain changes made which will enable each of us to function more freely as individuals, each with a distinctive ministry of our own. It is taking us some time to find our bearings in this new arrangement, as we are not all traveling the same path or marching to exactly the same tune. But there is unity... the kind of unity that counts most in the eyes of God.

One report is that the Jesus Christians have "disbanded". Some have chosen to use that term to describe what has happened. They are free to do so. However, I prefer to see it as a kind of "graduation". Cherry and I have been given responsibility for this web site, and we are still endeavouring to find the best way to deal with that responsibility. Others have taken control of other assets and will do with them what they feel is best.

Cherry and I wish all the best to those with whom we have worked for so many years. We feel fortunate to have been able to play a part in the spiritual journeys of those who have been touched by the message which we have preached. If we each keep our eyes on Jesus then what we are doing now will come to be seen as a greater show of unity than ever was possible in our former association.

One only can hope that the professional stalkers will leave the Mckays and the other Jesus-Christians or anyone who supports them alone, but it is not likely. All decent people are appalled at the virulent hatred that boils out of the stalkers in the hate sites. It has become obvious that fully disbanding according to the announcement that was emailed to many people directly from the forum admin would leave individuals vulnerable to abuse from the hate site. This blog will continue to address the Rick A. Ross Institute and the stalker-gang problem as it affects far too many independent religious groups and individuals.

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  2. To "Anonymous", There are about four people who regularly post these comments and who show off their cowardice by hiding behind nicnames while attacking others: Brian Birmingham of Weymouth, Massachusetts, a dangerously mentally ill army reject now attending UMass and working for the charlatans Bob and Judy Pardon of Meadow-Haven, Lakeville, Massachusetts. ( Birmingham was sent home from Iraq for mental illness and is very dangerous to his fellow students as well as to anyone who catches his attention online for any reason.) Birmingham works as a professional internet stalker under the pseudonyms "Apollo" and "Zeuszor", among others, for Rick Ross Institute of New jersey a Jewish Gay fascist cult that gets away with murder for the same reason Whitey Bulger and the Casey Anthony family have been able to get away with murder: the American system is hopelessly corrupt. Birmingham has claimed to be working for Steve Hassan in recent months. Hassan has not denied using his stalking services under the guise of so-called "research". Other anonymous cowards include several miliant gay activists in Australia who are: Anita Walker, a former Quaker living in Melbourne along with Glen Griffiths and All Antony Moody, also Australian. Nick and Kate Croft are two other Australian stalkers who have been obsessed with destroying me through their profile "Verite Evangelene" ( a pseudonym used in their hate-site for especially sick and perverted posts attacking individuals.)

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    1. How dare you put down Kate! Consider that Kates son Ash had his organs stolen from this cruel cult. Dont u have any shame bitch?

      Kate is a beautiful wonderful mom who enjoys the occossionaly red wine unlike u who gets on the piss day and night. If you need 2 go 2 rehab lemme know as I will gladly piss on your walrus ass. Im guessing u have no idea what its like 2 be a mother. Its any wonder so many children are committing suicide.

      Fuck You You Great Big Fat Ass Bitch! Go sashay your phantom ass down Harlem, pin a dollar bill 2 your ass and wait for niggers 2 fight over your ass!

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    2. May God have mercy on you slut!

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    3. Pin 2 dollar bills to her butt. I wanna see hysteria and pandamonium break loose. I bet Denise dreams about so many men fighting over her big booty

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  3. Hi Denise, (this post is a copy of my comment at the end of The Jesus Christians have Disbanded article.)

    This is not Dann, but Sue Gianstefani. Our account has our son's name on it which is why it comes up as "Dan said".

    I was a member of the Jesus Christians for 25 years. My husband was a member for 29 years. Our son was born in the movement and lived his entire childhood in the group (with the exception of a short time after we were kicked out in 2005 during my husband's persecution with the Kenya abduction charges) until we were asked to leave permanently, never to return, by Dave McKay in August 2010. This was literally days before the Jesus Christians cruise which everyone in the Jesus Christians, except some members in Kenya who could not leave, were booked to go on with their families and friends.

    Strangely, we were included in the email communications about "going underground" that the group had in early November 2010. When Dave assumed we would obey his directions and immediately cut off all ties with our families, friends and everyone in the "outside world", we seriously prayed about whether this was really God's will. We then emailed everyone involved in the community with the answer we had from God, which was not to join them in going underground. We were immediately excommunicated and eventually told via a ransom style note we could only communicate via Dave if we had any reason to talk to any of the Jesus Christians, who had been our closest friends and a kind of spiritual family for all of our adult lives until that point.

    A similar situation happened to Ross Parry who was the longest standing member in the community other than Dave and Cherry.

    So, giving you some background, we were involved in the initial emails where Dave suggested the idea of deceiving the public and publicly announcing the group had disbanded to anyone who wrote in to the movement from that point on. David Mckay authored that "official statement" you have on your blog above. Knowing it was an outright lie, he later tried to pretend it was someone else's idea, which is why he changed his tune with his later posts on the website, and he even wrote to us and stated he had NEVER even used the word "disbanded", "from the beginning"! When we challenged this lie, he didn't reply and the discussion we had which was intended to try to resolve our disagreements with him ended abruptly.

    David Mckay has accused us of being the closest thing to being his worst enemies yet all we have done is try to communicate and resolve our disagreements with him and other members of the Jesus Christians, and to think and act independently, which is what he is claiming all the other Jesus Christians are have been doing since they "disbanded" or "graduated".

    Sue Gianstefani. survivors_team3@yahoo.co.uk
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    1. I replied at length in the other article "Jesus Christians have Disbanded". I just want to thank you for commenting here and want to invite you to use this forum anytime you want to write something.

      Lately there has been a resurgence of activity which Dave thought was partly due to my response to the "J-C Watcher" creep, but as the past few weeks have shown, they were preparing this new wave for weeks regardless.

      My lateness in posting here is partly due to damage done in my life by the RRI group's email campaigns, but alongside the damage was a rise in awareness among people who were able to track the emails back to gang activity of Brian Birmingham et al and also to see the common threads with other victims. I no longer fight them because the point has been made. I use this blog now simply to provide a bench-mark, prediodically updated, of their activities so that all besieged believers can avoid isolation.

      God bless you, Sue, and Dann and his dad, too, in all that you do.



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    2. Denise stop eating and go suck some Christian cock

      ) )====D )*

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    3. Next time u shit 1 out ask Jesus 2 wipe your ass. If he isnt available Dave will gladly lick your ass clean. I bet u can taste daves dick in your ravanous mouth. Pass it back and forwards on the bus like COG days. Every1 hungry 4 two hot inches of love. Oh yeh taste that cock in your mouth. Savour the cum as if u were drinking tea with the Queen. Mmmmm so good. The taste of spoof all over your hairy bush. I bet your so wet you inserting another tampon in. Oh yeh pull it in and out bitch. Your crazy 4 cock 2night. Private Eyes is watching. He loves 2 watch. He is a huge cock. PE DV threw me around like a ragdoll with his big man meat. I moaned like a dirty whore and he laughed and said i reminded him of u lol Now go lick the shit out of an ashtray and dont tell me that kink dont make u squirt like a hose!

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    4. Sisi has me tied up in a basement

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  4. The jesus christ movement are really good people. I met some giving out stuff. i liked what they had to say and i havent come across too many haters axcept a guy called brian who called my house with prank calls when i wouldnt listen to him. Id like to join but the lifestyle seems a bit rough and im not sure i could go without my kfc and noodle soup. Dave and cherri-anne seem nice. The only negative thing i could say is that at times i felt like i was being peeled away by dave. I dont mind being under the mircroscope but maybe all the haters have caused paranoa

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    1. Anonymous u sound like a suck! Ask Anita if she likes ice on her Quaker nipples? If u wanna get on Anitas better side lol just know she is a bucket kinda gal (this does not disclude bucket on KFC roof)

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    2. My vageena hurtz

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    3. Ive asked The Pope to intercede for us

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  5. the extreme pressure the group exerts onto its members is unchristian and demonic.Makay is a nutjob who in our modern pick and mix culture can achieve much publicity by his antics but it should be remembered he is a messianic wannabe like David Koresh and sooner later...WAco OR Jonestown/

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